As the OpenAI CEO sat down with podcaster Theo Von, it felt at times both were staring into the void: "It feels like our sense of purpose would start to really disappear."

Sam Altman wants the U.S. government to pull back on AI regulation, but he's also concerned about an impending "AI fraud crisis."

Using voice authentication as a barrier between callers and bank accounts in the age of AI is "a crazy thing to still be doing," Altman said.