Donald Trump is the face of a new cryptocurrency business. Its key employees have a past littered with lawsuits and debts.

On the other hand, much of the audience, which peaked at over 50,000 listeners, was likely more interested in finding out when, how, and where to invest. The answer: A governance token called WLFI will be sold on public exchanges.

He did not directly address the new crypto firm, called World Liberty Financial. “If we don’t do it, China is going to do it. China is doing it anyway. But if we don’t do it, we’re not going to be the biggest,