The former first lady opened up about a powerful talk she had with her husband — and a therapist says it's an important conversation for everyone.

In Michelle Obama's opinion, "everyone would know" if she was divorcing her husband. The former first lady said it wouldn't be a secret if she was splitting from former President Barack Obama, during a May 1 episode of "The Diary of a CEO" podcast with host Steven Bartlett.

Originally appeared on E! Online Michelle Obama is not going anywhere. After her mother Marian Robinson died at the age of 86 last May, the former first lady of the United States—who wed Barack Obama in 1992—shared insight into the realizations she had amid her grief.